In this first of two intriguing conversations with widely revered masters of Tibetan Buddhism, His Holiness the Dalai Lama is heard on Side A in a dialogue with David Freudberg recorded at Harvard University. The renowned teacher offers a kindly prescription for clarity in one’s mental attitude. He talks about the state of human “enlightenment,” from the perspective of one considered the fourteenth reincarnation of an ancient sage. Then, on Part 2, Kalu Rinpoche, an eighty-year-old Tibetan Buddhist master, traces personal suffering to its root cause—the state of desire and attachment.

Note: This is part of our series, “Kindred Spirits,” which contains four volumes of 12 half-hour segments.